America’s Top Antisemites Just Teamed Up - Here’s What Went Down

One thing became unmistakably clear during Candace Owens’s interview with Nick Fuentes on her platform: Owens may flirt with antisemitism, but Fuentes embodies it fully - and unapologetically.

These two outspoken Catholics, leading voices in the antisemitic “woke-right” movement. represent two toxic strands: Fuentes, the face of proto-fascist Catholic ethnonationalism, and Owens, the voice of conspiratorial anti-Zionist rhetoric cloaked in mainstream appeal. Together, they offered a disturbing preview of what America’s future could look like if their influence continues to grow.

Half the discussion was more like a petty feud between two gossip columnists than an ideological debate. The meeting came after years of mutual hostility and infighting between the two, and the long-standing tension was present. They bickered over Dave Smith (one-quarter Jewish), and whether it matters if he’s Jewish at all as long as he is against Israel. For Fuentes, it matters, because “his loyalty is to his people and his religion", "and he’s a libertarian". For Owens, it doesn’t, because he helps “expose Israel.”

Deep - indeed.

To Fuentes’s credit, he did seem to want to keep the conversation focused on ideological issues, while Owens repeatedly veered into personal territory. But then again, when your entire ideology, rooted in Nazi-Catholic grievance, is based on victimhood, what do you expect in return? A philosophical discourse on Jewish metaphysics? How deep can any of this really go?

For him, spirit is not about logic, analysis, metaphysics, or science, it's a cultural and religious war against the Jews, and he sees himself as leading it to "save America."

Fuentes, as usual, went full-conspiracy, arguing that Smith is part of a plot to put Jews in the spotlight to criticize only Israel, not the broader true “Jewish control” over American society. He declared that there shouldn’t be any Jewish billionaires or Jews in politics, because they are a “threat to National Security", due to their dual loyalty (right Baby-Pope).

This line of thinking, disturbingly, echoes the beliefs of other Catholic figures like Patrick Bet-David, who has suggested that only Catholics should serve in government.

Owens tried to position herself as more moderate, claiming her issue is with “Zionists,” not Jews as a whole. But as the conversation wore on, it became clear that she too is comfortable speaking in generalities about Jews, not just “Zionists.”

The conversation was intellectually shallow. Both speakers excel at talking, not thinking. On topics like race, intermarriage, and IQ, Fuentes made derogatory claims about the African race and asserted that lower IQ scores were inherent, while Owens responded by attributing those disparities to historical exploitation. Still, Fuentes denied a well-established fact: that Ashkenazi Jews have the highest average IQ in the world. He mistakenly insisted it was white Europeans, and even after Owens corrected him twice, he refused to concede.

At one point, the interview devolved into a bizarre exchange where Owens mocked Fuentes for being unmarried while preaching traditional values. This is an hour after he already spiraled into grievance for being “canceled” and alienated, recounting how, after once being friends with Jews, he “woke up” and realized they control everything.

In truth, this pattern is common among non-Jews who get close to Jews and then become disillusioned, at times due to their inability to keep-up, envy, self-shame, or being rejected. He can be lumped in that sense with historical antisemites, from Muhammad to Hitler to Martin Luther, who all expierneced such interactions.

Mainstream media is often criticized for dumbing things down to appeal to mass audiences, but you’d expect more from two people claiming to lead a reactionary "edgy" movement. Instead, all they offer is crude generalizations about Jews and/or Black people mixed with personal vendettas and intellectual laziness. Their inability to rise above petty drama, especially after years of public feuds, only underscores how unserious they are.

Perhaps this inability to innovate, to think critically, or to imagine a better world is the real root of their resentment, toward those who can.

The Jews.

That being said, it’s possible that the extreme antisemitism on display is merely a cover for a deeper Neo-Catholic consolidation. And since the majority of Catholics in America are Hispanic, the far-right movement may soon face a necessary compromise: they won’t be able to be both racist and devoutly Catholic.

The Jews may be cast out for not being part of this Catholic identity, but soon after, they’ll have to confront a deeper question: how do you run a state based on racial hierarchy when your own base doesn't fit it?

No doubt Nick wants a Catholic state - the problem is, there are already plenty of those. And America was certainly not founded as one, nor should it ever become one.